while you're busy not having "any" contact with your family and you need help, it's ok to contact your family because they are not going to help you.....
2 Corinth 11: 12-15
And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
while you're busy not having "any" contact with your family and you need help, it's ok to contact your family because they are not going to help you.....
@M*A*S*H My intention is not to promote the same attitude as the WTS, but only to "EXPOSE" their sick and twisted rules and logic.
To be honest, I'm of the same mindset as you. I treat my JW family members with "TRUE" love and understanding even more so then their own JW family. I told one that I don't have a problem with them being a JW, but the GB is the one that has a problem with me.
And when we do have contact, I don't treat my JW family members with love to prove the GB wrong, I do this because I truly love my family.
I was thinking about this yesterday. In reality, the bottom line is free will, how can one come to love God and his Son if they are held hostage.
LUKE 11:46
"Yes," said Jesus, "what sorrow also awaits you experts in religious law! For you crush people with unbearable religious demands, and you never lift a finger to ease the burden.
2 thess 2:1-17.
1now we request you, abrethren, with regard to the1bcoming of our lord jesus christ and ourcgathering together to him,.
2 that you not be quickly shaken from your1composure or be disturbed either by a aspirit or a 2bmessage or a cletter as if from us, to the effect that dthe day of the lord ehas come.. 3 alet no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the 1bapostasy comes first, and the cman of lawlessness is revealed, the dson of destruction,.
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2 thess 2:1-17.
1now we request you, abrethren, with regard to the1bcoming of our lord jesus christ and ourcgathering together to him,.
2 that you not be quickly shaken from your1composure or be disturbed either by a aspirit or a 2bmessage or a cletter as if from us, to the effect that dthe day of the lord ehas come.. 3 alet no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the 1bapostasy comes first, and the cman of lawlessness is revealed, the dson of destruction,.
If I seem aggressive in most of my posts......that's because I am
You see GB, DF'ing doesn't make one come around as you state, especially when it's an unscriptual command and you take one's only begotten away. I will do all I can do to expose you for the APOSTATES YOU REALLY ARE!
Ephesians 5:9-12
9 (for a the fruit of the Light consists in all b goodness and righteousness and truth),
10 1 a trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.
11 a Do not participate in the unfruitful b deeds of c darkness, but instead even 1 d expose them;
12 for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret.
One pissed off parent
2 thess 2:1-17.
1now we request you, abrethren, with regard to the1bcoming of our lord jesus christ and ourcgathering together to him,.
2 that you not be quickly shaken from your1composure or be disturbed either by a aspirit or a 2bmessage or a cletter as if from us, to the effect that dthe day of the lord ehas come.. 3 alet no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the 1bapostasy comes first, and the cman of lawlessness is revealed, the dson of destruction,.
2 Thess 2:1-17
1 Now we request you, a brethren, with regard to the 1 b coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our c gathering together to Him,
2 that you not be quickly shaken from your 1 composure or be disturbed either by a a spirit or a 2 b message or a c letter as if from us, to the effect that d the day of the Lord e has come.
3 a Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the 1 b apostasy comes first, and the c man of lawlessness is revealed, the d son of destruction,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above 1 a every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, b displaying himself as being God.
5 Do you not remember that a while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
6 And you know a what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed.
7 For a the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only b he who now restrains will do sountil he is taken out of the way.
8 Then that lawless one a will be revealed whom the Lord will slay b with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the c appearance of His 1 coming;
9 that is, the one whose 1 coming is in accord with the activity of a Satan, with all power and 2 b signs and false wonders,
10 and with 1 all the deception of wickedness for a those who perish, because they did not receive the love of b the truth so as to be saved.
11 For this reason a God 1 will send upon them 2 a b deluding influence so that they will believe 3 what is false,
12 in order that they all may be 1 judged who a did not believe the truth, but 2 b took pleasure in wickedness.
13 a But we should always give thanks to God for you, b brethren beloved by the Lord, because c God has chosen you 1 from the beginning d for salvation 2 e through sanctification 3 by the Spirit and faith in the truth.
14 It was for this He a called you through b our gospel, 1 that you may gain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 So then, brethren, a stand firm and b hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether c by word of mouth or c by letter 1 from us.
16 a Now may our Lord Jesus Christ a Himself and God our Father, who has b loved us and given us eternal comfort and c good hope by grace,
17 a comfort and b strengthen your hearts in every good work and word.
************************************************************************* 1 Timothy 1:1-201 Paul, a an apostle of b Christ Jesus c according to the commandment of c God our Savior, and of b Christ Jesus, who is our d hope,
2 To a Timothy, a my true child in the faith: b Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and c Christ Jesus our Lord.
3 As I urged you 1 upon my departure for a Macedonia, 2 remain on at b Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to c teach strange doctrines,
4 nor to 1 pay attention to a myths and endless b genealogies, which give rise to mere c speculation rather than d furthering 2 the administration of God which is by faith.
5 But the goal of our 1 a instruction is love b from a pure heart and a c good conscience and a sincere d faith.
6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to a fruitless discussion,
7 a wanting to be b teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.
8 But we know that a the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully,
9 realizing the fact that a law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and b rebellious, for the c ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and d profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers
10 1 and 2 a immoral men 1 and b homosexuals 1 and c kidnappers 1 and d liars 1 and e perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to f sound teaching,
11 according to a the glorious gospel of b the blessed God, with which I have been c entrusted.
12 I thank a Christ Jesus our Lord, who has b strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, c putting me into service,
13 even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was b shown mercy because c I acted ignorantly in unbelief;
14 and the a grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the b faith and love which arefound in Christ Jesus.
15 a It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that b Christ Jesus came into the world to c save sinners, among whom d I am foremost of all.
16 Yet for this reason I a found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might b demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those 1 who would believe in Him for eternal life.
17 Now to the a King 1 eternal, b immortal, c invisible, the d only God, e be honor and glory 2 forever and ever. Amen.
18 This a command I entrust to you, Timothy, b my 1 son, in accordance with the c prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you d fight the good fight,
19 keeping a faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to 1 b their faith.
20 1 Among these are a Hymenaeus and b Alexander, whom I have c handed over to Satan, so that they will be d taught not to blaspheme.
gag tastic quote from the first "marriage" study article in the latest koolaid puketower:.
a christian who marries an unbeliever is not exemplary and lacks real apprecia-tion for gods gift of marriage.
entering such a union after baptism can cost one some privileges among gods people.
re phrased:
Since Paul suggest to stay single 1 Corinth 7:25,26 it's bad to marry (even in the Lord)?? Will your privileges be limited or taken away and your prayers be tainted with disobedience because you're in fact disobeying Jehovah?
gag tastic quote from the first "marriage" study article in the latest koolaid puketower:.
a christian who marries an unbeliever is not exemplary and lacks real apprecia-tion for gods gift of marriage.
entering such a union after baptism can cost one some privileges among gods people.
another example of extreme guilt pushing and scripture twisting....
A Christian who marries an unbeliever is not exemplary and lacks real apprecia-tion for God’s gift of marriage. Entering such a union after baptism can cost one some privileges among God’s people. And it would be illogical to expect blessings while admitting in prayer, ‘Jehovah, I deliberately disobeyed you, but please bless me anyway.'
Nowhere in 1 Corinth 7: 1-39 does it talk about disobeying Gods commandment. Paul "continually" says "throughout" 1 Corinth 7, these are his "consessions, not commands". The only place where it is a command is where a husand and wife are joined together until death, Romans 7: 2,3 Speaking of which, if it was a command it would have also been mentioned in Romans 7.
Also, since Paul suggest to stay single 1 Corinth 7:25,26 it's bad to marry? If you marry will your privileges be limited or taken away and your prayers be tainted with disobedience because you're in fact disobeying Jehovah?
The problem here is JW's are trained to read the Watchtower fully and only cherry pick scriptures. JW's need to learn to read "full context" of scriptures .......
1 Corinth 7:23 "You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men".
hello, when i use firefox and try opening jwn, my page continues to shuts down.
funny because i can use firefox to go on any other site but here.
but when i use another browser i can get to jwn.
Ha....I don't either LOL
Mac user, however, could be I need an upgraded version. I only use it once in a great while, and noticed this one is really old. I usually use Safari
hello, when i use firefox and try opening jwn, my page continues to shuts down.
funny because i can use firefox to go on any other site but here.
but when i use another browser i can get to jwn.
Thanx transhuman68! It turns out Firefox is now shutting down other sites as well. I'll uninstall. I should use an app/spyware cleaner as well. Thanx again
hello, when i use firefox and try opening jwn, my page continues to shuts down.
funny because i can use firefox to go on any other site but here.
but when i use another browser i can get to jwn.
Hello, when I use Firefox and try opening JWN, my page continues to shuts down. Funny because I can use Firefox to go on any other site but here. But when I use another browser I can get to JWN. Any reason why?
